The latest internet controversy stars some familiar faces for those of you who like to stand ringside at comics blogosphere brouhahas, including Rich Johnston of Bleeding Cool, Ragnell (formerly of the When Fangirls Attack blog), and Larry of Larry's Comics, whom you may remember as "that guy" from "Don't Be That Guy: Retailer Edition."
Let's start with the picture that lit the match, which was

I'd also like to clarify right up front that while Johnston claimed the image "was also run past DC Comics marketing in case there was an objection - and there was none," a DC spokesman confirmed to me unequivocally that that the picture was NOT approved by DC. Perhaps DC simply did not answer Johnston at all, but this is a pretty disingenuous way of expressing that, and one that confused commenters into thinking DC had actively approved it -- an assumption Johnston did not correct.
The comment war that followed on Ragnell's blog involved name-calling, an argument over whether or not the picture constitutes porn (which it doesn't), and a request for a gender swapped version of the image. One commenter thought perhaps turnabout would be fair play, and wondered how people would feel if the image were of two hands cupping the nether regions of a dude. Good question! Let's find out:

I'm reminded of the time that Shaenon Garrity tore apart a particularly bad issue of "JSA" where Power Girl responded to a difficult situation by taking off all her clothes, hugging a teddy bear, and crying -- prompting Garrity to imagine how that scene might have looked with Power Girl's cousin, Superman, as the star:

I think gender swapping can be helpful, sometimes, because we're so suffused with sexualized imagery of women in comics that after a while it can really start to seem like static. But in all honesty, I can't say the original image bothers me too much, because it is what it is: boobs. Boobs without context. Boobs for the sake of boobs. Boobs.
What else is there to say, aside from the fact that making this type of imagery as a retailer -- not to mention making it this badly -- means that you've totally written off women as readers and customers, and you have no problem turning comics into a stag party for a bunch of hollering morons who don't particularly care about the quality of something as long as there are naked lady parts involved.
For his part, Larry manages to preempt most of my criticisms by owning up to the fact that he actively feeds the lowest common denominator for cash, and doesn't care about the consequences:
Ran a fun promo in the shop. Got some creative pics. Figured this one was Rich's speed.
I know its sophmoric [sic], and the problem with the industry today.
I know its insulting to women in some way, and the reason they are not flocking to comic shops.
I know, I'm the shop owner that hurts the industry. Whatever..
Customers got a kick out of the promo, got creative and had fun. I sold a sh-tload of product. That's all I really give a rats ass about.
I can say many things about Larry, and have, but I can't say that he isn't honest about what he's doing, not just in terms of selling sex, but selling it in the crudest, most stereotypical and immature way possible. It's also pretty telling that after taking a picture like that he immediately thought, "Rich Johnston is the guy who will really like this!" and, that he was right.I know its sophmoric [sic], and the problem with the industry today.
I know its insulting to women in some way, and the reason they are not flocking to comic shops.
I know, I'm the shop owner that hurts the industry. Whatever..
Customers got a kick out of the promo, got creative and had fun. I sold a sh-tload of product. That's all I really give a rats ass about.
Really, there's so much less to argue about when people own up to being d-bags that don't care about the industry, or the medium, or really anything besides the cold, hard cha-ching of their cash register. So if you ever wanted to know what comics retail looks like when you scrape the very bottom of the barrel, there you go. And if you ever wondered who the publishers are selling to when they put out equally coarse material, now you know that too.

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Wednesday 02 December
By Matt
and if you ever want to know which shop not to patronize under any circumstances whatsoever, now I do.
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Wednesday 02 December
By Rich Johnston
I run stuff past DC all the time. If there is an objection they let me know about it, and boy do they let me know. I've dropped certain stories and held stories on the basis of concerns. This time, as usual, I sent the image to a Senior VP of choice, the day before running the piece, telling them I was planning to run the image the next day and got no objection back. There's nothing disingenous about that.
I ran the visual because I thought it was funny. But of course there was context. That was a week when those pesky rings were everywhere, selling everything, which was talked about in the accompanying text.
Of course your readers can't see the context that you deny exists because you neglected to provide a link to the Bleeding Cool post in question... 8-)
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Wednesday 02 December
By Laura Hudson
Saying the image "was also run past DC Comics marketing in case there was an objection - and there was none" when in fact you received no reply and had no interaction with anyone at DC is actively misleading. I know this both because it implies a conversation that never occurred -- and approval that was never given -- and more concretely because I actually watched it mislead commenters on Ragnell's blog who began saying that DC had approved the image, which you did not correct in any of your subsequent comments.
The fact that no one specifically yelled at you over this -- which frankly I can understand, since weighing in on something like this should rightly be beneath a publisher -- doesn't mean that anyone at DC thought it was ok, and you know that.
Wednesday 02 December
By BG
OOOOOOH. I get it. The context is that the power rings were everywhere! And then you had them covering breasts!
Man, thanks for explaining that, Rich Johnston. Now I can see how the image isn't just cheap titillation! It was cheap titillation with power rings!
Wednesday 02 December
By Chris Sims
But of course there was context. That was a week when those pesky rings were everywhere, selling everything, which was talked about in the accompanying text.
So this was done as a commentary on sales. Really.
Thursday 03 December
By BilliamFoushdow
Of course it was done as a commentary on sales. Little known fact, redtube.com is actually a commentary on Hedonism.
Thursday 03 December
By Lulu bonanza
.....eh....Dude Gen 13/Mrs Jackson much??? This promo is ridic....so ridic I cant even spell out the whole word...geeeeeeeesh....
Wednesday 02 December
By WolkinTexasRanger
Let's be honest here. If you did something that would make Power Girl want to punch you, then you're probably in the wrong.
And I think we all know who PG would be punching in this situation.
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Wednesday 02 December
By Rich Johnston
"I know this both because it implies a conversation that never occurred"
No it doesn't.
"and approval that was never given"
No it doesn't
"and more concretely because I actually watched it mislead commenters on Ragnell's blog who began saying that DC had approved the image, which you did not correct in any of your subsequent comments."
Firstly because I thought they were sarcastic, secondly because Ragnell then asked me not to.
"The fact that no one specifically yelled at you over this -- which frankly I can understand, since weighing in on something like this should rightly be beneath a publisher -- doesn't mean that anyone at DC thought it was ok, and you know that."
DC let me know of all sorts of issues, as and when they occur. They don't yell at me. But they do let me know of any problematic issues. If they didn't think it was ok, I would have been told. They've never been reticent about coming forward before.
I doubt PG would be punching anyone in this situation. She's a superhero, no?
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Wednesday 02 December
By Ragnell
Dude. I didn't want to talk to you, bnut you had to go and say this: "secondly because Ragnell then asked me not to."
You're doing EXACTLY what Laura pointed out you did earlier. Implying something that's not true at all.
Not trusting my memory I went and double-checked that thread, man, and the log of our IM conversation. I never specifically addressed you saying you ran it past DC. I just told you that I didn't like you, that my primary problem was Larry's attitude (I did specifically say it wasn't the MPAA rating of the damned picture, because everyone keeps trying to shift the conversation there) and to go away because I didn't want to argue in circles with you.
But here you are implying that I specifically asked you not to clear the record on your contacts with DC, which is a way of shifting the responsibility for your dishonesty on my shoulders--the same as implying that DC signed off on the image was a way of shifting the responsibility for the tastelessness of the chosen image onto DC's shoulders.
Now that you're called on it, no doubt you'll try to wiggle out of it. That's part of your MO, and congratulations, you have enough fame that we all see it coming. But as debate can only occur when both sides are dealing honestly, there's little point in the argument. If I'm too tired to reply to your next attempt to twist things in your favor, you can take that as a win if you like.