At the last stop on his year-long Bone World Tour, Jeff Smith sat down at SPX this afternoon with Heidi MacDonald for an engaging hour-long chat in which he spoke of Bone, Shazam, and his forthcoming Rasl. And yes, he also uttered the pull quote I shamelessly used as the title of this post, but you'll have to read on to get the context for that statement.Plainly stating that he is "not a children's author, [he is] a comic book guy," Smith spoke of the dual existence that Bone now enjoys as a truly all-ages book. Smith explained that "in the graphic novel section [of a book store] is the big, black and white book for adults, and in the kids section is the very same book in color." Smith explained that he "didn't make Bone for kids, I made it for cartoon heads like us...but kids found it, librarians found it, and claimed it."
In response to a question about being known for all time as "the Bone guy," Jeff replied that, "I'm fine with being 'the Bone guy.' I love Bone. I'm very proud of it."
Of his Shazam miniseries, Smith agreed that "a breather is a really good way to put it" by way of describing his having taken on that work-for-hire gig following his twelve years creating Bone, and also noted that of all the characters that DC could have offered him, Shazam was the one that he felt he couldn't refuse.
Speaking of his highly anticipated new creator-owned series, Rasl, Smith explained that the book represents his "interest in physics and Carl Sagan and James Bond," going on to explain that, "Rasl is an inter-dimensional art thief...you can hire him to go to a parallel world and steal a Mona Lisa for you." I'm hooked already, and can't wait for the February debut of the title, which Smith anticipates publishing quarterly.MacDonald devilishly (and, presumably already in possession of the answer) asked Smith in front of the capacity crowd if he reads manga, to which Smith replied, "nope." Smith went on to qualify that response, however, explaining that he has read Miyazaki, Tezuka, and Otomo ("Akira is amazing"), but that in general, he thinks that, "manga is just not that good...I just think they're kind of corny and cookie-cutter, but the ones that aren't are transcendent, and as good as anything." On an enthusiastically positive note, Smith observed that "manga, if anything, proves that kids love comics." Which, I'm sure we can all agree, is a Good Thing.
But Smith saved the best for last, teasing the crowd with the mouth-watering possibility of a sequel to the Rose miniseries written by Smith and painted by Charles Vess. It seems that Vess told Smith at San Diego this year that he wants to do a sequel to Rose, and that he feels he has one more big graphic novel in him...it just depends who gets a script to him first, Smith or Neil Gaiman. At which point Smith mimed madly scribbling away on just such a script, much to the delight of the crowd.
Kinda makes you wonder if Vess said the same thing to Gaiman, who was also in attendance at San Diego this year...and if so, whether he may have mentioned a specific character to Gaiman. Hmmmm...
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Saturday 13 October
By gia
Funny...Smith's reason for not reading manga is almost exactly the same reason I don't read American comics! ;)
In all seriousness though, what's up with dismissing an entire style like that? There's good manga, there's bad manga-- just like there are good western comics and bad ones. "90% of everything is crap," as Sturgeon said...
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Tuesday 16 October
By joe
He didn't dismiss the entire style. He said manga is cheesy and then said "the ones that aren't are transcendental", but being a manga reader you probably have no idea what that means.
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Tuesday 16 October
By John Anderson
Um, Joe, you might want to consider taking the time to read the entire post first before commenting. For example, I would direct your attention to the sixth paragraph where I include the EXACT quote you mention, by way of explaining that he didn't dismiss manga outright. I just know a great pull quote when I see one is all ; )
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Tuesday 16 October
By Mattyoung
Actually, Gia, Joe, Jeff's answer seemed to bridge both your concerns. As I recall, when he said that manga can be cookie-cutter and generic, it was because he felt they were somewhat cynically targeted at kids purely on marketing and polling in a relationship similar to American superhero comics and their inability to leave their fanboys wanting in the least.
He seemed angry that Marvel and DC don't just get off their duffs and really find a new generation of fans the way manga has, since he's convinced manga's plan, as an industry, is to simply bury the american comic companies. Whether that'd be for better or for worse for american readers is debatable, but he's happy that kids love comics, regardless.
Oh and Gia, not to take Joe's rather snippy side in this, but: "In all seriousness though, what's up with dismissing an entire style like that?" Like 'Amerian comics'?
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Friday 26 October
By Anthony
Manga is mainly targeted towards teens and adults in Japan but in America, like anything else that's drawn or animated, it HAS to be marketed towards kids no matter who it was marketed to someplace else. Name more than three Manga's or Anime that are specificly targeted to kids from their creation NOT from the time they came here I.E. Naruto, One Piece, Yu Gi Oh and more which are targeted at MATURE audiences in Japan but dumbed down for children's marketing here. The American comic companies have been dying for a reason...nobody likes them anymore and their sagas have literaly gone from bad to sucking on an epic level. Now die hard comic nerds are just pissed because all the crap they've devoted their life to collecting is now worth nothing and the only thing they have to blame because their lazy and stupid is Manga. It's not Mangas fault that it's better and that western comics are now actually starting to TRY to copy the art style. And I know I'll get blamed for this somehow but I don't care cause I know I'm right...Comic companies are just like Disney now, making money off of what they already created years and years ago and remarketing it. Don't be pissed at Manga cause it's fresh and American comics are moldy and stagnent. And honestly, how many of you posters actually read Manga aside from Gia, the first poster? Go out and actually read some of it before you start spittin your venom about. And before somebody says the same to me, I stopped collecting Marvel and DC stuff when I was in early highschool cause that's when it all was past the beginning stages of suckage so there.
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Saturday 20 October
By JonnyWaffles
Y'know what? I agree with Jeff on this point here. Manga, or at least that which was imported into the United States after the 1980s, is just not that good. I mean, the majority of the titles (and remember, there is a HUGE MULTITUDE of manga titles in the world. More, I think, than western comics.) On the other hand, there is good manga out there, such as Akira, or my personal favorite: Blackjack. Still, there are less American titles, and more creators working on fewer titles. There are also independent titles, and American creators are trained and devoted to their fields; manga creators fall into it because they can't get better jobs. I for one think that American comics are higher quality, and both more creative and more entertaining. Manga is so filled with cliches and commonly-used trappings. Get over it. I prefer American comics, and to be honest, I think that if most Otakus (like you, Gia, who, by the way, shouldn't even be on a Blog site devoted to a genre and industry you hate with a passion) gave them a chance, they would agree.
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Saturday 20 October
By violet
Manga not good? Come on. They're both comics; one just comes from a different background than the other.
I mean, if you look at the major differences between the two.... well, they're major. One's Western and one's Eastern, obviously.
Everyone has reasons for everything, like I have reasons for preferring manga over Western comics.
Mainly because most of the anime you see on TV nowadays comes from manga. Naruto, Bleach, .hack.... you get the idea. But then again, some of the greatest movies come from comics.
.......Erm, anyway........
He didn't completely lay off manga, but he didn't praise it, either. I just have one thing to say: Either you like it or you don't, dude; that's the way life works.
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Friday 26 October
By x Tiffany x
I'm an avid manga-lover, so of course it hurts when someone says that manga "isn't that good." But, on a certain level, I have to agree. Not because manga isn't good, but because the cheesy ones get all of the attention. Bleach? Pokemon? Even Yu-Gi-Oh!, of which I still am a fan (can't help it)? Please.
A lot of people seem to single out "Akira" as "the one" manga that breaks the stereotypes. But what about the others? Monster? Death Note? Petshop of Horrors? Most people haven't even heard of them, let alone read them. There are so many manga titles that the good ones get lost in the mix.
I'm not a big fan of American Comics, because a lot of them do seem incredibly cheesy and outdated to me. But I am a fan of some. No genre can be completely dismissed, and I think that's where a lot of manga fans make their mistake.
It's not about loyalty to the East or West. It's just about personal preference and being willing to recognize a good thing when you see it. That's all.
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Wednesday 31 October
By Olivia
I remember collecting comics especially superman comics, when it was the whole doomsday where superman died. I think after that, I got into the x-men comics, because a couple of guys came to class, carrying a ton of x-men comics. But really I always thought that comics had many story lines going all over the place, that I couldn't keep up. So when I saw Saliormoon for the first time, i loved the show, it was full of drama that was close to life, minus the powers, that I related to.
After that, I just kept reading manga. I really love the fight styles and storylines. I tend to look towards action manga, and maybe some shojo manga, but I really like the conflict that is going on in these manga.
I think it is really narrow to classify All manga as cookie cutter, and think that manga is all pokemon, which it isn't. Manga is really broad in all its age ranges which in american comics it is geared towards more to the guys.
I was into Naruto before it was picked up by the american companies and so was bleach. It really isn't a kiddie show, because it has dark eastern themes dealing with spirits and the motivtion behind it.
But hey, by dumbing it down here in the states, its able to gain a broader appeal.
Maybe american comics start translating their stuff to other languages to gain a broader appeal world wide...
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Monday 12 November
By shaun
hi the names shaun i don't really have a comment but i am working on a manga
and i was wondering if you would like to here about it and maybe see the first chapter. warning: it is not meant for young kids it's meant for adults because there is bad ass sword fighting scenes, very graffic and detailed, so if you want to hear about it then email me at
bigdog69_2007@yahoo.com
you won't be dissapointed.
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